Cell Relay Archive[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next] [Date Index][Thread Index][Author Index][Subject Index] Re: Acceptable Cell Loss
In article <D78J6J.L9F@inter.NL.net> J.Lasschuit@aranea.nl (J.Lasschuit) writes: >I agree that it depends on the application wheter a loss rate is acceptable >or not. But ATM was designed to work on high reliable media, with a very low >error rate. Otherwise, in those applications which are sensitive to errors, >one bit error leads to retransmitting a complete frame (a lot of cells). Of >course, one bit error in plain video or audio signals wouldn't do much harm, >but bear in mind that most of the video and audio signals are compressed >before sending. A bit error in compressed signals leads to unacceptable >noise in the signal (we want to have a clear noise free connection, don't we >?) And because those signals can't be retransmitted, bit errors are even >more a burden then within data. BTW: A cell loss ratio of percents is >certainly not what we expect from ATM. Two problems still arise. One, it's now acceptable to run ATM over practically any physical medium, from single-mode optics to unshielded twisted pair and almost to reindeer antlers. (Isn't that the latest proposal from Lapland Telecom? :-) ) The original B-ISDN notion of glass only is obsolete. And UTP in particular can easily be stretched to a high BER. Far more important, though, is congestion-related loss. CBR won't throw away anything unless a) it's broken, or b) you exceed your SCR. VBR won't throw away _much_ unless a) it's broken, or b) you exceed your SCR or PCR, or c) you get unlucky and some bursts converge in the network and overflow a buffer ("funneling" loss). ABR won't throw away anything unless a) it's broken, or b) you violate its policy, or c) they take some brain-damaged rate-based hack and call it ABR. UBR won't throw away anything unless a) you use UBR, in which case all bets are off and a .7%, 7%, or 75% loss rate are all totally reasonable to expect, depending upon instantaneous load of the network. Among all of those, I'd say it's unreasonable to expect ATM networks to have extremely low loss rates at all times. ___ Fred R. Goldstein k1io fgoldstein@bbn.com Bolt Beranek & Newman Inc., Cambridge MA USA +1 617 873 3850 Opinions are mine alone; sharing requires permission. |
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