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  • From: hiroshi@ctr.columbia.edu (Hiroshi Esaki)
  • Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 12:41:05 -0400
  • CC: mwg@faline.bellcore.com, J.Crowcroft@cs.ucl.ac.uk, int-serv@isi.edu, ip-atm@hpl.hp.co.uk



    mwg> The ATM folks think it's so simple that it
    mwg> will have no market, while many IP folks want nothing more complex
    mwg> from ATM than FIFO queueing with big buffers (which would be a
    mwg> satisfactory implementation of UBR.)

   jh> i have nothing against simplicity, but you make implementing ubr too
   jh> simple.  even in case of ubr, one would like to have at least some
   jh> degree of fairness and to avoid dropping of cells, unless you at the
   jh> same time drop all cells of the same frame.  large buffers alone don't
   jh> provide this.

FIFO with big buffer will be faur for every body, I think. 
Also, the significant cell loss for UBR is kind of mis-enginnering. 
This is competely the same in the Ethernet. 

Hiroshi Esaki