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Neil, Nuno, I get the impression that a LSP is being used for both the trail and a tandem connection (subnetwork connection). But also as a tributary slot identifier. Note - Tributary slot identifiers in other technologies are: VPI, VCI, time slot, frequency slot (wavelength). A tributary slot identifier is bound to a "link connection". A signal passing through from an incoming link connection (via a "matrix connection" in a fabric) to an outgoing link connection may see a tributary slot identifier change. E.g. VPI_in=124 => VPI_out=765, timeslot_in=1, timeslot_out = 18, lambda_in = 15 => lambda_out = 63, and label_in=5354 => label_out=678521. TTP and CTP are terms defined in association with the information modelling. * A TTP in the information model is equivalent with a Trail Termination function (_TT) and the common part of the Adaptation function (_A) in the functional model. * A CTP in the information model is equivalent with the Connection Point at the Connection function (_C) and the client specific part of the Adaptation function (_A) in the functional model. A link connection (LC) starts at a CTP and ends at the next CTP: Link Connection: CTP - server layer trail - CTP A matrix connection (MC) starts at a TTP/CTP and ends at the TTP/CTP at the other end of the fabric (connection function): Matrix Connection: TTP/CTP - TTP/CTP A matrix connection is the smallest subnetwork connection (SNC). A subnetwork connection is in general defined as: SNC: SNC - LC - SNC, with the smallest SNC being a MC. > TTPs - are the IP interfaces/ports? TTPs are the LSP termination points, where bits 20-31 of the MPLS label are added/removed and the information in the payload of this MPLS packet extracted. > CTPs- are the labels? CTPs are the boundaries of the link connection. The 20-bit label value is added/removed here. A link connection starts/ends at each LSR and LER. Associated with a CTP may be a tandem connection TTP. Such tandem connection TTP adds another 32-bit MPLS label and associated MPLS OAM packet flow. > LCs - are the connections/associations between 2 labels in two > different LSRs? A LC is the connection between the egress of one LSR [or LER] and the ingress of the next LSR [or LER]. > SNCs- are the forwarding tables in the LSRs and LERs? (a connection > between the TTP and CTP in the LER, or a connection between CTPs in > the LSRs)? The set of MCs (matrix connections) are the forwarding tables in the LSRs and LERs. Up to so far. Regards, Maarten Nuno Silva wrote: > > Neil et all, > > Under the scope of G.805 (March 2000), do you think it makes sense to model > an LSP as a Network Connection, composed by a concatenation of SNCs and LCs > (if so, what would be the subnetwork connections, the link connections, the > TTPs and CTPs), or as an IP trail? > > TTPs - are the IP interfaces/ports? > CTPs- are the labels? > LCs - are the connections/associations between 2 labels in two different > LSRs? > SNCs- are the forwarding tables in the LSRs and LERs? (a connection between > the TTP and CTP in the LER, or a connection between CTPs in the LSRs)? > > So the question is indeed, is the functional architecture defined in G.805 > applicable to the MPLS/MPlambaS worlds? > How does this cope with G.cls (connectionless) work? > > Thanx ahead. Nuno. > > > Nuno Carvalho Silva > PT Inovação, SGR > > Phone: + 351 234 403 394 > Fax: + 351 234 424 160 > E-mail: nunos@ptinovacao.pt > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: neil.2.harrison@bt.com [SMTP:neil.2.harrison@bt.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2000 10:07 PM > > To: Juergen.Heiles@icn.siemens.de; jdrake@calient.net; mpls@UU.NET > > Cc: ip-optical@lists.bell-labs.com > > Subject: RE: [IP-Optical] GMPLS - Hierarchies > > > > <snipped> > > > > > Furthermore a LSP -at least for circuit switching - doesn't have to > > start > > > and end at the trail termination where you extract your payload. > > NH=> I fudamentally disagree *if* we are adhering to functional > > arch. > > > A LSP could be used only for a sub part of the overall connection, e.g. > > a > > > DS1 signal starts in a user domain with tradional TMN path setup or even > > > manual connections, the DS1 comes to a operator which uses GMPLS for > > path > > > -setup (in this case a permanent connection set-up by himself as the > > user > > > doesn't support the UNI). The LSP starts in the middleof the overall DS1 > > > connection and no access to the paylaod of the DS1 is requried at that > > > point. > > NH=> The DSI signal is 'an LSP' in its own right......it is, after > > all, a clear layer network trail entity. The fact that it may be served > > (on > > link connections, which are a partition of the end-end DS1 trail) by lower > > layer "LSPs" (which could be a DS3, VC4, ODU, etc.......and which > > themselves > > are trails *but* only between their points of source/sink) is > > academic.....the DS1 trail is completely unaware of this, and the layering > > recursion of client_links=>server_trails can recurse many times.......its > > stops at the duct network. > > Your example *must*, and indeed does, fit this. > > neil > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IP-Optical mailing list > > IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com > > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical > > _______________________________________________ > IP-Optical mailing list > IP-Optical@lists.bell-labs.com > http://lists.bell-labs.com/mailman/listinfo/ip-optical begin:vcard n:Vissers;Maarten tel;cell:+31 62 061 3945 tel;fax:+31 35 687 5976 tel;home:+31 35 526 5463 tel;work:+31 35 687 4270 x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Lucent Technologies Nederland;NA&CPSE version:2.1 email;internet:mvissers@lucent.com adr;quoted-printable:;;Botterstraat 45=0D=0A=0D=0A;1271 XL Huizen;;;The Netherlands fn:Maarten Vissers end:vcard
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