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ATM Switches as LSR encoding techniques

  • From: Eric Rosen <erosen@cisco.com>
  • Date: Wed, 31 May 2000 12:30:27 -0400
  • cc: "'rraszuk@cisco.com'" <rraszuk@cisco.com>, David Charlap <david.charlap@marconi.com>, mpls@UU.NET
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EricGray> All of  these things  are things that  exist and can  be supported
EricGray> using ATM (for  example).  Yet people you're talking  to want them
EricGray> using MPLS.   Perhaps the  unified control plane  issue is  not as
EricGray> orthogonal as you think?

There are  a number of  reasons for preferring  MPLS to ATM that  don't have
much  to do  with the  control plane:  ATM's cell-switching  overhead, ATM's
scalability  problems   having  to  do  with   lack  of  multipoint-to-point
capability,  the scalability  problems of  having to  have  n**2 connections
among the  n routers on  the ATM network,  ATM's dependence on  a particular
data link  layer, the  inability of  most ATM switches  to handle  native IP
packets at  all, etc.  IMHO,  it's the scaling  issues rather than  the more
abstract "unified control plane" issues  which are driving the market.  Many
of the things  which can in theory be  done with ATM are difficult  to do in
practice because of the scaling limitations.

But I would agree  that there are also important reasons that  do have to do
with unifying the control plane: I  think the need to support an ATM routing
and addressing infrastructure  which is independent from the  IP routing and
addressing  infrastructure is  a problem,  one which  MPLS doesn't  have.  I
don't know though how much the customers really care about this. 

Some folks have made a fetish out of this drive for a unified control plane,
arguing that  what is really needed  is the one true  grand unified protocol
that does absolutely everything.  I think what Robert is saying is that this
fetish is not something which derives from customer needs.