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["Geoff Zinderdine" <geoffz@mts.net>]

Durga,

I found nothing in the email that you were responding to that warrants your
sanctimony.  I found the links useful, and am puzzled what it was that you
think he was selling.  After having to set up procmail rules to weed out the
"unsubscribe" messages from those formerly on this list (at least I hope it
is now formerly) that were under the mistaken assumption that this is a
majordomo, it was refreshing to see an on-topic series of questions that
wasn't some puerile pigeon-English query from a CS student that took a wrong
turn at IP in the Madras Academy.

If you persist in seeing marketing where there is content, you will banish
whatever remaining usefulness this list may possibly have.  Frankly, MPLS
research and development has primarily been done at the behest of vendors to
serve business models... their own or their customers.  I have always been
puzzled by those engineers that think that good engineering can take place
in a vacuum apart from the business models it serves.  Working for UUNET of
all places, a company that has peering policies driven strictly by dollars
and cents, I find it peculiar for you to take to task the good listmembers
that spend their own blood, sweat and tears to advance their position.
"Remove the plank from one's own eye..." Perhaps DILLETANTE-L might be a
more suitable forum for your tirade.

Have a nice weekend.

Best regards,

Geoff Zinderdine
CCNP CCA MCP Total SOB
"My views are my own.  Mine.  All mine."


----- Original Message -----
From: "Durga Gangisetti" <durga@UU.NET>
To: <RickGall1@aol.com>; "Mpls-Ops@Mplsrc. Com" <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 2:08 PM
Subject: Re: MPLS Label distribution research


> Hi All,
>
> I really hate to say this, but I cannot ignore the very fact that how tech
> listings/meetings/ std bodies are turning into a marketing place.
>
> Yes, many respectful members (am not specific about any) including -
> founders,co-founders,CTO's, CEO's et nal , who are out there are just
> taking care of their own personal interests (not related to technology...
> purely monetray benefits) based on their golf/etc  networking ignoring
> what the real issues/problems are!
>
> Some call it research/opportunities and ponder all sorts of marketing
> strategies to start selling. What I see is - they are all  just marketing
> themselves for their own personal interests, I donot see any other
> reason than that, to post such marketing mails in this environment.
>
> Let's all make this clear to all of them , that -
> "They can have all, what they want in their own methds,
>                                                       but not taking
> advantage of  us".
>
>
> I wish the guru/guardian of this mailing list should shoot 'em a warning
> and de-list them, if continued as well alert other mailing lists about
their
> activities.
>
> I hope educated people respect mailing listings and  make it a marketing
> free zone.
>
> Regards,
> Durgaprasad V G.
>
>
> At 10:47 AM 9/7/01 EDT, RickGall1@aol.com wrote:
> >Research:
> >
> >Hello All I am developing an article on MPLS Label distribution. As part
of
> >my research I am conduction a poll to see who is doing what in MPLS.
> >
> >I attached a form below any and all help you can provide would be most
> >appreciated.
> >
> >Thank you for your help. You may find my web site MPLS links helpful
> >http://www.rickgallaher.com/mplslinks.htm.
> >
> >Yours truly,
> >
> >Rick Gallaher
> >Instructor MPLS
> >
> >
> >
> >Your name: _______________
> >
> >Organization: _______________
> >
> >May I quote you? ____________
> >
> >1)  For Label distribution what protocol do are you currently using?
> >
> >        LDP
> >       CR-LDP
> >       RSVP-TE
> >       OSPF-TE
> >
> >         Other: List ________________________________
> >
> >
> >2)  Are you using "downlink on demand" or triggered MPLS?
> >
> >     If so please provide examples and challenges you faced
> >
> >3)  Are you using independent or ordered control
> >
> >4)  What is your biggest challenge in MPLS and MPLS label distribution.
> >
> >5) Any other information you care to share with the community.
> >
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