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[Ajay Simha <asimha@cisco.com>]

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, alok wrote:

>a:sorry Ajay,
>a:
>a:was a personal opinion....
>a:no offense intended to anyone :o)

No offense taken. I was not trying to promote Cisco products. I was just
trying to keep the discussion technical and to the point. If he asked can I
use Cisco routers to do this? I would have answered yes :)

-ajay
>a:cheers
>a:
>a:Alok
>a:CCNA CCNP ;o)
>a:
>a:----- Original Message -----
>a:From: Ajay Simha <asimha@cisco.com>
>a:To: alok <alok.dube@apara.com>
>a:Cc: NOC Ops <theguber@hotmail.com>; <balaji.c@ntt.com>;
>a:<mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
>a:Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:20 PM
>a:Subject: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Outbound Internet Connectivity !!!
>a:
>a:
>a:On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, alok wrote:
>a:
>a:>a:i dont think anyone will dump IP.....with MPLS-RSVP-TE etc etc
>a:developing,
>a:>a:IP can replace a lot of circuit switched technologies now....
>a:>a:
>a:>a:Nortel is one of the best guys for switching (extreme looks good
>a:>a:too....)....and their ethernet profile is pretty good...
>a:>a:
>a:>a:The amount of stuff they have done in L4 switching and the way they have
>a:>a:redesigned their MSS and 15k etc, Meridian, Norstar BCM...seems good
>a:too....
>a:>a:
>a:>a:but in terms of VOIP, SDH, Carrier class etc... they have always given
>a:great
>a:>a:solutions..
>a:>a:
>a:>a:ERX...Ive never worked on it so i dunno the limitations.....but
>a:>a:Shasta...definately is good....
>a:>a:
>a:>a:Cosine..hmm..... need to check that out too....never played on it...
>a:
>a:I guess we don't want to turn this into an advertising campaign. Technically
>a:speaking - you should be able to use any vendor equipment that has full 2547
>a:PE support.
>a:
>a:-ajay
>a:
>a:>a:
>a:>a:Wonder what ERX plans to move into? DSL exclusively?
>a:>a:
>a:>a:rgds
>a:>a:Alok
>a:>a:----- Original Message -----
>a:>a:From: NOC Ops <theguber@hotmail.com>
>a:>a:To: <alok.dube@apara.com>; <asimha@cisco.com>; <balaji.c@ntt.com>
>a:>a:Cc: <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
>a:>a:Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:06 PM
>a:>a:Subject: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Outbound Internet Connectivity !!!
>a:>a:
>a:>a:
>a:>a:Do not bank on the ERX as an Edge Device anymore...Thsi is what I got
>a:from
>a:>a:some recent ex-employees:
>a:>a:
>a:>a:The ERX is being positioned and focused going
>a:>a:forward strictly as a BRAS, with the M-series focused
>a:>a:on edge routing.
>a:>a:
>a:>a:Of course this development is at odds with the very
>a:>a:successful "one box solution" story that UNI
>a:>a:pitched. Internally the plan is for no new
>a:>a:development of edge routing features on the
>a:>a:ERX.
>a:>a:
>a:>a:Nortel/Shasta - yeah maybe technically...but do you think Nortel might
>a:dump
>a:>a:IP again soon?
>a:>a:
>a:>a:Cosine is the other box to look at that does it very well.
>a:>a:
>a:>a:
>a:>a:
>a:>a:
>a:>a:>From: "alok" <alok.dube@apara.com>
>a:>a:>To: "Ajay Simha" <asimha@cisco.com>,   "Balaji Chandrasekaran"
>a:>a:><balaji.c@ntt.com>
>a:>a:>CC: <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
>a:>a:>Subject: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Outbound Internet Connectivity !!!
>a:>a:>Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 12:44:13 +0530
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:>look at Shasta ;o)
>a:>a:>or Unisphere
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:>2 nice products to cater to the same
>a:>a:>-rgds
>a:>a:>a
>a:>a:>----- Original Message -----
>a:>a:>From: Ajay Simha <asimha@cisco.com>
>a:>a:>To: Balaji Chandrasekaran <balaji.c@ntt.com>
>a:>a:>Cc: <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
>a:>a:>Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 8:30 AM
>a:>a:>Subject: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Outbound Internet Connectivity !!!
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:>On Fri, 30 Aug 2002, Balaji Chandrasekaran wrote:
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:> >BC:Hello,
>a:>a:> >BC:
>a:>a:> >BC:Is there any Service Provider who is providing or planning to
>a:provide
>a:>a:> >BC:Outbound Internet Connectivity Service.
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:>Sure. Lots of them.
>a:>a:> >BC:
>a:>a:> >BC:Can that be considered as a vulnerable point for all customers
>a:using
>a:>a:>it
>a:>a:> >BC:because it connects to the Internet.
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:>You can have a centralized Internet gateway that the PEs default route
>a:to.
>a:>a:>This gateway can then go out on a firewall to the Internet. This does
>a:not
>a:>a:>compromise the PEs especially if you turn off TTL propagation in the
>a:MPLS
>a:>a:>core
>a:>a:>and PE routers for forwarding.
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:>-ajay
>a:>a:>
>a:>a:> >BC:
>a:>a:> >BC:Bala.
>a:>a:> >BC:
>a:>a:> >BC:
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