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Fwd: REG: MPLS Design issue

  • From: Roger Clark Williams <rogerw@nordlink.com>
  • Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:53:06 -0400
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Tony, I had this exact question in a VPNSC class,and it is an interesting one. Usually the box that holds that information is inside the provider's NOC, and access to the NOC by customers is, should we say, strongly discouraged.

Within VPN Solution Center there is a way to provision a management VPN. The presumption is that for VPNSC to do its job, it needs to be able to reach each customer's VPN, and likewise the customer needs to be able to reach the VPNSC box (ie normal IP types of traffic, known routes etc, but in specific, SNMP is the underlying reason for it). By design, each managed customer is a member of the management VPN along with his own VPN. As I said above, this is not a situation that either the SP or the customer really likes, as neither wants the other to see routes internal to their own networks. So the management VPN is a special one,  built to share very little information. Usually only the loopback address of the customer CE and the NOC CE ( or "MCE") is passed between the two networks.

With all this, it is possible to tweak that setup to have the VPNSC box and/or your management system box behind that CE and visible to the customer, but that isn't the strongest of protections. If the management box can be seen by the client, effectively anything on that subnet is subject to unauthorized access, and perhaps different customers could see each other's setups and other information. Not good.

What the group in the class came up with was to have an extranet on a separate subnet and allow each client/customer VPN access to a box with a copy of the information gathered by the management system. This would be something like a DMZ for the NOC, and the real management system wouldn't be here. There is still the need to segment various customers' information on that box, so as a solution it is still just a concept. There could be a number of other scenarios, and I mention this one simply because it was one provider's proposed solution. It is not necessarily the best, but perhaps it will get the discussion going. It is a real need, and it would be great to hear from some providers as to how they handle it.

Roger Williams


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Subject: [MPLS-OPS]: REG: MPLS Design issue
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Hello,

I guess many of you would have faced a similar situation. On a provider network running MPLS VPN's, There is a requirement as follows -

All MPLS VPN customers, will need to access a central Network Management system located in the provider network, which would provide customers with detailed reports on their respective VPN. The server would ideally be providing reports on bandwidth, network uptime etc.

What would be the ideal way of provisioning the same.

The network will not provide transport for Internet traffic.

Any suggestions will be appreciated.

Regards,

Tony.

 

 

 

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