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Re: Internet access

  • From: Robert Raszuk <raszuk@cisco.com>
  • Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 20:44:37 +0200
  • CC: "'mpls-ops@mplsrc.com'" <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
  • Organization: Signature: http://www.employees.org/~raszuk/sig/
  • Resent-Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 16:27:46 -0400
  • To: Yuly Milner <ymilner@unistars.lv>


> this is what cisco   g o i n g  to do (not yet; it is announced but not
> implemented yet).

Well it is implemented .... :) Anyway for ISP selection you may also
want to check out the vrf selection feature, platforms it is supported
on etc ...

R.

> Yuly Milner wrote:
> 
> I have been researching this issue for quite a bit. If you are OK with
> providing real IP addresses to every location of VPN customer (which is not
> the case with Tomasz), then the cheapest workable solution would be to make
> an Internet VPN and to play with bgp extended communities (rd export and
> import), to inject VPN route into Internet VPN and legal customers route
> into internet VPN
> I have done exactly that in the beginning. Than I figured, that I want to
> provide choice of several ISPs for my VPN customers, and possibly security
> also. This brought me to the NAT gateway solution.
> The ideal thing in this case is to have your internet gateway integrated
> into your MPLS cloud - this is what Cosine does (but for lots of $$), and
> this is what cisco   g o i n g  to do (not yet; it is announced but not
> implemented yet). Maybe several other vendors also.
> In cisco case, it is going to be a PE router, with multiple VRFs and NAT
> running for each of them.
> 
> If you also want to provide security service to your VPN customers, than
> (besides Cosine) Checkpoint VSX might be a good option. It runs virtual
> firewalls per customer VLAN. So you terminate your VRFs into vlans, and run
> them into your VSX. Costs about 1.5K per vlan (options for 10, 25, 50 ...)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Yuly
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NOC Ops [mailto:theguber@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 19:04
> To: alok.dube@apara.com; ostaszewskit@wp.pl
> Cc: Yuly Milner
> Subject: Re: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Internet access
> 
> I laugh when I see this since traditional routgers always have an ikssue
> with it.
> 
> Cosine does it very nicely..
> 
> Look at the attached. Not overtky marketing Cosine here but with Virtual
> Routers it makes a nice clean solution of it and can be done network wide
> distributed.
> 
> >From: "alok" <alok.dube@apara.com>
> >To: "Tomasz Ostaszewski" <ostaszewskit@wp.pl>
> >CC: "Yuly Milner" <ymilner@unistars.lv>, < >
> >Subject: Re: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Internet access
> >Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 17:25:36 +0530
> >
> >yes the same is possible
> >
> >look for a box which gives u this functionality :
> >
> >a huge NAT box.... interface to MPLS network.....
> >
> >the box support MPLS based VRFs or u can give the functionality of multiple
> >GRE/VLAN tunnels on the MPLS side...
> >
> >the remote side to the internet needs to have an association
> >
> >VLAN-1/VPN-1(if ur box supports MPLS ecnap)/GRE-tunnel-1 which is coming
> >from vrf -1 of customer -1 has NATed public ip -1
> >
> >vlan-2/VPN-2 (if ur box supports MPLS encap)/GRE-tunnel-2 which is coming
> >from vrf-2 of customer-2 has NATed public ip -2
> >
> >and so on...
> >
> >the BOX is what connects to the internet and NAT's/PAT's each customer
> >VRF... it can be done at a central site..no problems...
> >
> >-rgds
> >Alok
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Tomasz Ostaszewski <ostaszewskit@wp.pl>
> >To: alok <alok.dube@apara.com>
> >Cc: Yuly Milner <ymilner@unistars.lv>; <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
> >Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 3:07 PM
> >Subject: Odp: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Internet access
> >
> >
> >Alok,
> >
> >I wonder about design of internet access from MPLS VPN. I want
> >that only central site (hub) has registered IP address and I
> >wonder if it possible not to give registered segment between
> >others PE-CE pairs (spokes).
> >
> >Tomasz
> >
> >Dnia 19-09-2002 o godz. 10:38 alok napisa3(a):
> > > does your this "one site already have a public ip?
> > >
> > > and you want to connect it out to public and figure out how to
> >do it? or do
> > > u want to know how give it a public ip?
> > > -rgds
> > > Alok
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > Wrom: SKVFVWRKJVZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDDJ
> > > To: 'Tomasz Ostaszewski' <ostaszewskit@wp.pl>; <mpls-
> >ops@mplsrc.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 12:36 PM
> > > Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Internet access
> > >
> > >
> > > Only by using NAT gateway within this VPN
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > Wrom: BLVLMHAALPTCXLYRWTQTIPWIGYOKSTTZRCLBDXRQBGJSNB
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 00:59
> > > To: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> > > Subject: [MPLS-OPS]: Internet access
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi
> > > Is it possible to create internet access within MPLS VPN
> >through
> > > one central site without giving registered (internet) IP
> >address
> > > to all other sites within this VPN but only to central one?
> > >
> > > Tomasz
> > >
> > >
> > >
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