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Re: Clarify Management VPN?

  • From: Rajiv Asati <rajiva@cisco.com>
  • Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 15:40:07 -0400
  • Cc: Ives.Dekoninck@eu.didata.com, mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
  • Resent-Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:07:15 -0400
  • To: "Frederik H. Andersen" <fhu@get2net.dk>
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Frederik,

At 02:54 PM 8/1/2003, Frederik H. Andersen wrote:
>Hi Ives,
>
>Thanx, your reply was very helpful.
>Why do you have the '/24 le 32' in the prefix match specification? Shouldn't
>it be sufficient with /24?

Nah.../24 will only the prefixes that have /24 mask.
Having "le 32" allows the whole range from /24 to /32.

This would be the case if you don't know what subnet the loopbacks are 
allocated with.
If it is affirmative that each loopback is allocated a /32, then you can 
safely include /32 (instead of the whole range) in the prefix-list.
Also, few folks prefer to make the management have the reachability 
information to the PE-CE interface and in that case, you may want to allow 
the whole range.

Cheers,
Rajiv

>Perhaps you can help on this issue too:
>When the management station gets connected via a management VPN then what
>about access to PE routers loopback addresses?
>
>- Fred
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ives Dekoninck [mailto:Ives.Dekoninck@eu.didata.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 1:57 PM
> > To: 'Frederik H. Andersen'
> > Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Clarify Management VPN?
> >
> >
> > Hi Fred,
> >
> > For the management VPN what I do is export the Mgmt routes by a route
> > target X which I import in all my VPN sites. For the VPN's themself I use
> > an export map which tages specific routes with an additional Route target
> > (don't forget the additive keyword in your route-map) which I then import
> > in the management VPN.
> >
> > As such the management can reach eg. all loopback addresses from the VPN
> > sites.
> >
> > I use an export map so that I only have to add the map on VPN creation, and
> > I don't need to alter my mgmt VPN configuration.
> >
> > Below is a config example:
> >
> > ip vrf MGT
> > rd 65000:1
> > route-target export 65000:1
> > route-target import 65000:2
> >
> > ip vrf VPN1
> > rd 65000:10
> > export-map export_to_mgt
> > route-target import 65000:1
> > route-target export 65000:10
> >
> > ip vrf VPN2
> > rd 65000:11
> > export-map export_to_mgt
> > route-target import 65000:1
> > route-target export 65000:11
> >
> > route-map export_to_mgt
> >  match ip address prefix-list loopbacks
> >  set extended 65000:2 additive
> >
> > ip prefix-list loopbacks permit W.X.Y.Z/24 le 32
> >
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps,
> >
> > -Ives-
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frederik H. Andersen [mailto:Frederik.H.Andersen@netman.dk]
> > Sent: vendredi 1 août 2003 13:36
> > To: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> > Subject: [MPLS-OPS]: Clarify Management VPN?
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm planning a Cisco hub&spoke type ISP Management VPN and have some doubts
> >  which I hope some with insight is willing spend the time to resolve:
> >
> > Assume the following (generic) VRFs:
> > Any VPN Site:                           The Management Hub site:
> >    VRF Site1                        VRF Hub
> >       RD S1                            RD HH
> >       RT import Spoke                  RT export Spoke
> >       RT export Hub                    RT import Hub
> >       RT ...
> >
> > 1) Is it correct, that the routes exported by the sites and imported by the
> >  Hub (having RT Hub) are NOT redistributed by the Hub (iBGP) to the spoke
> >  sites with a RT of Spoke ?
> >
> > 2) Are they redistributed at all, with e.g. an RT of Hub?
> >
> > 3) If they are not redistributed, what if a customer VPN had a similar
> >  hub&spoke configuration. How would this VPN learn the routes, e.g. how
> > would a Site1 know the route to e.g. a Site2
> >
> > To limit the number of routes to be stored by the management Hub site PE, I
> > understand that e.g. an import route map could be deployed by the Hub site
> > to filter unwanted routes. E.g. something like:
> >    VRF Hub
> >       RD HH
> >       RT export Spoke
> >       RT import Hub
> >       import map mgmt_map
> >
> > 4) Will the 'RT import Hub' and an 'import map' work as an OR or as an AND?
> >  I.e. will only routes with RT Hub AND satisfying the map match criteria be
> >  imported?
> >
> > 5) Is it possible/better to limit the distribution of management routes at
> >  the sites, by use of an export map configuration?
> >
> > 6) If a map uses a 'match ip address' construct, what address is actually
> >  matched? a) Is it the src or dst IP address in the route update protocol
> >  (BGP peer)? b) Is it the route prefix in the routes?
> >    c) Is it the next hop address in the routes?
> >
> > 7) It looks to me, that a VPN topology refers to the control plane and not
> >  the data plane, because when a site route is learnt on PE1 from some other
> >  iBGP peer (e.g. a PE-hub), it refers to the PE2 connecting to that prefix,
> >  and then the IGP will point PE1 to the next hop router towards PE2 and
> > this will typically not be the hub?! Is this correct?
> >
> > I hope some may clarify these issues or point me to some information that
> >  might.
> >
> > - Fred
> >
> >
> >
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