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Re: RES: On-line TE?

  • From: Jean Philippe Vasseur <jvasseur@cisco.com>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:16:32 -0500
  • Cc: "Sandmaier, Jan" <Jan.Sandmaier@t-systems.com>, <ILazar@burtongroup.com>, <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
  • Resent-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:29:29 -0500
  • To: Lavoisier José Leite Farias <lfarias@cpqd.com.br>
  • X-Sender: jvasseur@paris.cisco.com

Hi,

At 13:59 12/03/2003 -0300, Lavoisier José Leite Farias wrote:
Is there any advantage by choosing one or other option ? I understood by reading Irwin's answer that on-line TE is used as fault mechanism.

No, on line TE is not used as a fault mechanism, you have the two options:
        - off-line (centralized): provides global optimization as the set of TE LSPs are simultaneously computed by a single entity that makes  use of search mechanisms, to find a placement that for instance tries to minimize the average load utilization of each link (this is just one   example),
        - on-line (distributed): each LSR independently computes paths for its own set of TE LSPs using CSPF. Inability to find placement due to        bandwidth fragmentation can be highly reduced by the use of appropriate mechanisms like (soft) preemption.

Both are currently deployed by Service Providers.

JP.

I believe off-line calculation it seems to keep the whole network optimized. am I correct ?
 
Regards,
Lavoisier.
-----Mensagem original-----
De: Sandmaier, Jan [mailto:Jan.Sandmaier@t-systems.com]
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 12 de março de 2003 11:44
Para: ILazar@burtongroup.com; mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
Assunto: AW: [MPLS-OPS]: On-line TE?

Irwin,
 
the two concepts are not so different. In off-line TE you collect traffic rates from all your LSPs in the network, feed the traffic matrix in an optimization engine which produces explicite routes which are used by a provisioning tool to build up the new paths. It is up to the oparator when he adjusts the model or which triggers are used for ajustment. Engineered paths are also adjusted accordingly based on actual network conditions as with on-line TE. You may use on-line TE/dynamic LSPs as a fallback mechanism in case of a link outage. The triggers in on-line TE are configured thresholds and reoptimization timers so there is no big difference. The difference is more centralized computation versus distributed.
 
Jan
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Irwin Lazar [mailto:ILazar@burtongroup.com]
Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 16:32
An: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
Betreff: [MPLS-OPS]: On-line TE?

I've seen quite a few vendorst that offer sophisticated systems for off-line TE.  My understanding is that this is done by downloading sample network data into a TE optimization engine?  Correct?
 
Is there anyone out there doing on-line TE - in which real-time network traffic is processed and engineered paths are adjusted accordingly based on actual network conditions?
 
Thanks,
Irwin

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