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Fwd: Re: Reg: redistrbiute - transparent

  • From: Roger Clark Williams <rogerw@nordlink.com>
  • Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 06:13:46 -0400
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It may be totally obvious to all, but since no one has said it specifically I thought I would at least state it.

You want to preserve the RIP hop count specifically when working with a VPN. Since RIP has a maximum of 15 usable hops, the journey from one end of a customer network (including a VPN) to the other could come close to using up the hops available. The MPLS core wants to look like a single hop to the customer, and passing the hop count to the BGP MED and back again accomplishes that.

Roger Williams


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From: Yinglam Cheung <ccie6961@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Reg: redistrbiute - transparent
To: Kishoren <kishoren@huawei.com>, mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
Cc: "Doukov, Roumen" <RDoukov@flagtelecom.com>
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It's useless if you have multiple ISP/AS in between, but it'll be very useful to preserve the RIP hop count between a single BGP AS, in this case, like a MPLS backbone using single AS.
A caveat I have found in low end Cisco routers is that, for some reason, it changes the hop count to 16 (which is indefinite) if I uses transparent. In high end router, I don't see this problem.

Kishoren <kishoren@huawei.com> wrote:
Hi Roumen,
 
    Thank you for your reply.
 
    You are saying that RIP hopcount is preserved and transported on BGP.
Can you please tell me what is the use of doing this. MED may not be sent transparently
if there are many routers of ISP involved while routing. And RIP hopcount itself
will not be of much use as there are other PE routers (transparent)
whose hopcount is not accounted.
 
Regards
Nanda kishore
 
P.s: Pls find a link in CISCO where they used this command
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/routers/ps314/products_feature_guide_chapter09186a008007e267.html
 
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Nanda Kishore
Huawei Technologies
Phone:  5217152 ext: 670
            5354259 (R)
Huawei 3rd Floor,
Leela Galleria, Airport Road,
Bangalore - India
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----- Original Message -----
From: Doukov, Roumen
To: 'Kishoren'
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2003 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Reg: redistrbiute - transparent

You preserve the RIP hop count, so the CE-PE RIP hop-count is copied into BGP MED and BGP MED copied back to RIP hop count when route is put back into RIP.
Roumen
-----Original Message-----
From: Kishoren [mailto:kishoren@huawei.com]
Sent: 19 May 2003 10:35
To: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
Subject: [MPLS-OPS]: Reg: redistrbiute - transparent

Hi,
 
    Can any one explain what does "redistribute bgp transparent"
will do, if I am redistributing BGP routes into RIP. I couldn't get
any information on that.
 
A link explaining this will be great.
 
Regards
Nanda kishore
 
 
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Nanda Kishore
Huawei Technologies
Phone:  5217152 ext: 670
            5354259 (R)
Huawei 3rd Floor,
Leela Galleria, Airport Road,
Bangalore - India
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best regards,
Yinglam Cheung
CCIE #6961 (R&S, C&S, Security)


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