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RE: Question about L2VPN over MPLS

  • From: "Khan, Amjad" <akhan@flagtelecom.com>
  • Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:06:18 -0000
  • Cc: "'mpls-ops@mplsrc.com'" <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
  • Resent-Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:50:14 -0500
  • To: "'sthaug@nethelp.no'" <sthaug@nethelp.no>
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How about thinking beyond ethernet? 
L2VPN is same as buying leased lines but over MPLS tunnels and ofcourse much
cheaper and perhaps with little or no QOS. It does seem attractive and has
some utility that all I need is to pay for local tails at end A and Z and a
small amount for the VPN pipe.


-----Original Message-----
From: sthaug@nethelp.no [mailto:sthaug@nethelp.no]
Sent: 24 March 2004 12:48
To: falsesylvia@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Question about L2VPN over MPLS


> I agree L2VPN does have a market [forgive the sarcasm but so does poison
:)].
>  
> The point I do not quite get is why would the end user want a termination
point on a Packet switching device with the SP?
>  
> Are you saying that the cost difference between buying a Layer 2 switch
versus a Layer 3 switch is "so highly significant"?

I don't know the customers' motives. All I can say is that

- There are definitely customers who are happy to get a packet (Ethernet)
interface from the provider - this is independent of whether the provider
sells VPLS or not. Some reasons for wanting an Ethernet interface are:
Less expensive than many traditional types of interfaces, more easily
upgradable bandwidth.

- Of the customers that want an Ethernet interface from the providers, 
there are some that would like to run point to multipoint - and this is
then the market for VPLS. An example: Only yesterday we had a customer
who wanted to run Cisco switches as a "stack" (manageable as one unit)
at several different physical locations (one stack spanning locations A,
B, C, etc). We have tried to discourage the customer a bit - saying that
this is not necessarily a good idea. But that's what the customer wanted!

> Why would he not buy a Layer 3 switch (if what he wants is ethernet) ,
take a link and connect it off to the SDH/SONET multiplexer provided by the
SP and use the same? What is the benefit he gets by terminating at a Packet
switching kind of device on the SP end?

See above. An additional reason is that the least expensive links now
are often DSL based, with a pure bridge-type CPE box (with Ethernet
interface).

Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no

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