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Re: Acceptable Cell Loss

  • From: J.Lasschuit@aranea.nl (J.Lasschuit)
  • Date: Tue, 18 Apr 1995 09:37:29 -0500, Tue, 18 Apr 1995 14:35:07 GMT

In article <D789C4.H2I@sci.kun.nl>, johnk@cs.kun.nl says...
>
>Let's not mix up cell loss ratio on one operational link, which should 
indeed
>be very low (say << 10^-12), and the cell loss ratio on the end-to-end
>connection which can widely vary, depending on the chosen QoS or traffic
>class.
>Also mind the difference in rate (events per second) and ratio (fraction).
>Finally, since cells count hundreds of bits, the bit error ratio and cell 
loss
>ratio will differ in general.
>
>Depending on the details of the terminal adapter, cell loss ratios up in 
the
>percents (!) seem to be acceptable for phone.
>
I agree that it depends on the application wheter a loss rate is acceptable 
or not. But ATM was designed to work on high reliable media, with a very low 
error rate. Otherwise, in those applications which are sensitive to errors, 
one bit error leads to retransmitting a complete frame (a lot of cells). Of 
course, one bit error in plain video or audio signals wouldn't do much harm, 
but bear in mind that most of the video and audio signals are compressed 
before sending. A bit error in compressed signals leads to unacceptable 
noise in the signal (we want to have a clear noise free connection, don't we 
?) And because those signals can't be retransmitted, bit errors are even 
more a burden then within data. BTW: A cell loss ratio of percents is 
certainly not what we expect from ATM.

John

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