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RE: MPLS/VPN question

  • From: "Saqib Jang" <saqibj@margallacomm.com>
  • Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2001 19:50:21 -0800
  • Cc: <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
  • Importance: Normal
  • Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2001 00:26:15 -0500
  • To: <raszuk@cisco.com>

I think my choice of VoIP (due to the QoS issues surrounding it)
as an example may have confused the issue. Assuming a number of sites have
set-up a FR based overlay network to forward a specific type of traffic
such as HTTP, FTP, or streaming traffic (setting aside the QoS implications
for now). Does it make sense for them to look to get rid of the overlay
network and use their existing last mile links thats used for
all their data traffic in conjunction with an MPLS VPN that supports only
(HTTP, ..) the specific type of traffic supported by their
existing FR network. Or will MPLS VPNs not work for such a scenario?

Saqib


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Raszuk [mailto:raszuk@cisco.com]
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2001 3:41 PM
To: saqibj@margallacomm.com
Cc: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
Subject: Re: MPLS/VPN question



Saqib,

I don't think that the approach of application specific VPNs even makes
sense. L2 or L3 VPNs provide you mainly with connectivity (routing
information distribution).

For application level scheduling guarantees you should be using the
right QoS tools available both in each hop as well on ingress. That way
you can classify very important traffic (VoIP for example) to be taking
the dedicated LLQ resources at each hop. I don't know how building VPNs
(routing information disgtribution) may replace basic qos engineering in
your network.

Also the existance or not of NMPLS-BGP VPNs is orthogonal to the
possibiliy of using more complex QoS tools like diffserv aware TE which
can be a perfect complement to the VPNs itself, but not a reason for it.

R.

> Saqib Jang wrote:
>
> As I understand it, MPLS/BGP VPNs (per RFC2547) enable site-to-site
> VPNs at for all traffic flowing between sites in the VPN. Can MPLS
> VPNs handle the requirement of creation of VPNs among sites for
> specific types of traffic (say e.g. VoIP traffic)? Would this require
> a VoIP swtich (other type of allication-aware switches) to be an MPLS edge
> router or can a "one size fits all" approach work here (i.e. can standard
> MPLS-aware IP routers create application-specific MPLS VPNs). I'm looking
> for technical rationale (i.e. not company/product positioning) here.
>
> TIA,
> Saqib
>
> Saqib Jang
> Margalla Communications, Inc.
> 3301 El Camino Real, Suite 220
> Atherton, CA 94027
> Ph: 650 298 8462
> Fax: 650 851 1613
>
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