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At 10:06 AM 5/24/2002 -0700, Joe Lin wrote: >I'll be blunt then. > >For juniper I can do the proprietary ccc crossconnects. > >What do I do for cisco? Er... it seems that you're asking "how do I configure layer 2 switching on a Cisco router?" For Ethernet, you might put the two interfaces into the same VLAN. That would work. Cheers, Mathew >-----Original Message----- >From: fraanro [mailto:fraanro@arrakis.es] >Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:56 PM >To: Joe Lin >Cc: 'Jim Guichard'; 'Vach Kompella'; 'Andrew G. Malis'; >mpls-ops@mplsrc.com >Subject: Re: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Is it possible to connect 2 CEs off the >same PE using l2-martini? > >Hi, > > as far as understand Martini describes/defines basically two things: > - The encapsulation methods for diverse L2 technologies over MPLS >frames to be transported (obviously) over a MPLS network. > - The signalling mechanisms to permit two devices to establish a L2 >over MPLS communications using those encapsulations. > > Therefore in the scenario of only one PE: > - Where is the MPLS there? That is, what do you need to transport >over MPLS? > - What do you need to signal? > > So, what do you need Martini for? You just need to do L2 ethernet >switching if it is for Ethernet, ATM switching for ATM, Frame Relay >switching, .... What you need is a device able to do Martini for remote >connections and this tasks for local connections. As far as I know >there are already some out there able to do that (maybe for not all the >L2 technologies at the same time). > >Javier. > > >----- Mensaje Original ----- >Remitente: "Joe Lin" <jlin@doradosoftware.com> >Fecha: Miércoles, Mayo 22, 2002 8:56 pm >Asunto: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Is it possible to connect 2 CEs off the same >PE using l2-martini? > > > For an end user of this technology then I am pretty much stuck with > > > > If I want to provide L2 VPN services using draft-martini across PEs, > > then use martini. Else, work some magic?? Because vendor X's > > implementation of the draft does not support providing L2 VPN services > > off the same PE using martini? > > > > Doesn't this sound silly? > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jim Guichard [mailto:jguichar@cisco.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 7:36 AM > > To: jlin@doradosoftware.com; Vach Kompella; Andrew G. Malis > > Cc: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com > > Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Is it possible to connect 2 CEs off the > > same PE > > using l2-martini? > > > > it depends on which type of encapsulation you are talking about - you > > can > > certainly bridge locally or provide frame switching locally but > > this has > > nothing to do with Martini. Jim > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Joe Lin [mailto:jlin@doradosoftware.com] > > > >Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 4:40 AM > > > >To: Vach Kompella; Andrew G. Malis; Joe Lin > > > >Cc: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com > > > >Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: Is it possible to connect 2 CEs off > > the same > > PE > > > >using l2-martini? > > > > > > > > > > > >No your not missing anything. > > > > > > > >effectively that would be the question. > > > > > > > >For a L2 device that does L3 functions, the answer > > > >would be vlan. > > > > > > > >but what about L3 devices now thats doing L2 > > > >functions? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---- Vach Kompella <vkompella@timetra.com> wrote: > > > >> I'm not sure I understand the question or the > > > >response. Where's the need > > > >> for martini in this configuration? > > > >> > > > >> To me, the question sounds like "Can a PE switch an > > > >L2 frame from one port > > > >> to another?" and the answer is "Yes, my box can, > > > >using draft-martini". Am I > > > >> missing something? > > > >> > > > >> -Vach > > > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >> From: Andrew G. Malis > > > >[mailto:Andy.Malis@VivaceNetworks.com] > > > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 5:28 PM > > > >> To: Joe Lin > > > >> Cc: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com > > > >> Subject: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: Is it possible to > > > >connect 2 CEs off the same PE > > > >> using l2-martini? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Joe, > > > >> > > > >> Absolutely (at least with our implementation). > > > >There's nothing in the > > > >> protocol definition to prevent it. > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, > > > >> Andy > > > >> > > > >> -------- > > > >> > > > >> At 5/21/2002 04:38 PM -0700, Joe Lin wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> All the sample configurations for > > > >l2-martini shows > > > >> connections between 2 CEs that are off 2 different > > > >PEs. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> CE -- PE PE -- CE > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Is it possible to use l2-martini to connect 2 > > > >CEs that hangs off the > > > >> same PE? > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> CE PE > > > >> > > > >> / > > > >> > > > >> / > > > >> > > > >> CE / > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> -Joe > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >------- > > > >The MPLS-OPS Mailing List > > > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.mplsrc.com/mplsops.shtml > > > >Archive: http://www.mplsrc.com/mpls-ops_archive.shtml > > > > ------- > > The MPLS-OPS Mailing List > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.mplsrc.com/mplsops.shtml > > Archive: http://www.mplsrc.com/mpls-ops_archive.shtml > > > > > > ------- > > The MPLS-OPS Mailing List > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.mplsrc.com/mplsops.shtml > > Archive: http://www.mplsrc.com/mpls-ops_archive.shtml > > > > > > >------- >The MPLS-OPS Mailing List >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.mplsrc.com/mplsops.shtml >Archive: http://www.mplsrc.com/mpls-ops_archive.shtml | Mathew Lodge | mathew@cplane.com | | Director, Product Management | Ph: +1 408 789 4068 | | CPLANE, Inc. | http://www.cplane.com | ------- The MPLS-OPS Mailing List Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.mplsrc.com/mplsops.shtml Archive: http://www.mplsrc.com/mpls-ops_archive.shtml
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