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Fwd: R: R: Minimum Network Configuration to setup MPLS

  • From: Roger Clark Williams <rogerw@nordlink.com>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2002 23:45:47 -0400
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Federico, I would have to crank up the lab to make sure, bit I think you 
will still find the LDP forwarding table. You are absolutely right in 
saying that a good view of  a complete MPLS network would include a P 
router, as then you will see the penultimate hop label popping. If the 
tester is looking at VPN traffic, then all the BGP information and VRF 
information will be a lot more interesting than just a couple of labels, 
and that can be seen on just the two PEs. If you want to look at TE tunnels 
- well, more of a network would certainly be nice - in fact, necessary. I 
was just saying that as a minimum, you can use 2 PEs alone to see the MPLS 
function. I am not saying that is the best, but it does work, it is functional.

Roger Williams

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>I'm in agree with you, but i think that even if an MPLS with 2 PEs only will
>work, it's not a good lab to understand MPLS.
>I've read (in "somebody"'s book :-)) that MPLS does that: (without VPN's or
>anything else)
>
>
>packet from CE to PE
>PE push the label and switch the packet
>P switch the packet
>last P remove the label (penultimate hop popping) and pass the IP packet to
>PE
>PE route the packet to CE
>
>Without a P, i think that PE will push the label and then pop off the label
>as penultimate hop, than it pass the IP packet
>to the other PE and so on...
>
>(no LDP/TDP forwarding table will be made...)
>
>Is it wrong?
>
>Bye
>
>Federico Aita
>Network Specialist Dati
>Cisco Certified Network & Design Associate
>Albacom
>
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: Roger Clark Williams [mailto:rogerw@nordlink.com]
>Inviato: venerd́ 25 ottobre 2002 14.27
>A: MPLS-ops Mailing List
>Oggetto: Fwd: R: [MPLS-OPS]: Minimum Network Configuration to setup MPLS
>
>
>   Federico, with all respect I would still say an MPLS network can be set
>up without a P router, using only 2 PE routers back to back.  Granted, you
>will not get a good look at all the proper LDP labeling because each PE is
>the ultimate, not penultimate router. However, from a VPN point of view,
>all BGP sessions work, VPN labels are exchanged etc, IGP routing happens,
>etc
>
>I guess it depends on what you are trying to do, trying to see.
>
>Roger Williams
>
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> >You have a problem:
> >
> >to implement the MPLS, you need at least a 3 router core:
> >2 PE-router
> >1 P-router
> >
> >+2 CE-router
> >
> >MPLS PE takes the incoming packet and push the label,
> >than, the last P does a "penultimate hop popping" by removing
> >the label and pass it to a PE-router as an IP packet.
> >
> >So with 2 PEs only you don't have an MPLS core...
> >
> >Cisco implement MPLS from 2600's family to 12000...
> >
> >Bye
> >
> >Federico Aita
> >Network Specialist Dati
> >Cisco Certified Network & Design Associate
> >Albacom
> >
> >
> >-----Messaggio originale-----
> >Da: champion boliao [mailto:mpls2000@mail.com]
> >Inviato: venerd́ 25 ottobre 2002 3.55
> >A: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> >Oggetto: [MPLS-OPS]: Minimum Network Configuration to setup MPLS
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I am struggling to understand more about MPLS network. I am currently
>trying
> >to setup a MPLS network in my lab.
> >
> >I have 4 routers, 2 Cisco 3600 series and 2 Cisco 7200 series. Am I able to
> >setup a MPLS system with these element by the following configuration ?
> >
> >
> >    CE---PE---PE---CE
> >
> >Which routers should be treated as CE and which as PE?
> >Is this the minimum routers needed to setup a MPLS network?
> >
> >Please give me your advice to enlighten me.
> >
> >Thank you very much.
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