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Re: Penultimate Hop Popping

  • From: Don Troshynski <dtroshynski@avici.com>
  • Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 14:34:19 -0400 (EDT)
  • Cc: <mpls-ops@mplsrc.com>
  • Importance: Normal
  • Resent-Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 15:34:30 -0400

Hi Bhavesh,

Regardless of how the next hop is represented, the egress would need to be
capable of two lookups if there is a non-null label present that results
in a pop operation, and there is additional information to determine next
hop (IP header or other field as you suggest).

The benefits of non-PHP implementation is that the label specific
information and statistical information is maintained for one-hop LSPs and
last hop of an LSP.

This is not an unsolvable problem as Avici hardware and software is
capable of these two lookups, as well as operation in a PHP scenario.

Don

> On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 10:24:22PM +0530, Bhavesh Modi wrote:
>>
>> Hi all
>>
>> As RFC 3031 says ( Section 3.16 ), If we do not use Penultimate Hop
>> Popping , the egress router will have to do two table lookups even in
>> case of only single label in label stack - one for determinig that it
>> has to pop the label & second traditional IP lookup. But instead of
>> only telling to pop the label can't we have one more field which gives
>>  it next hop? If we have such thing, there is no need of penultimate
>> hop  popping in case of stack of sigle label atleast. Has any vendor
>> implemented such technique?
>
> What you're talking about is replacing explicit-null with a real label
> value.  This is an implementation-specific thing at the tail; simply
> advertise a non-null, real label for a given prefix or next-hop or
> whatever.  One of the problems with this approach is dealing with the
> payload of whatever's underneath this bottom label without looking at
> the payload.
>
>
>
>
> eric
>
>>
>> -Bhavesh Modi
>> MTech-ICT
>> DA-IICT.
>> Gandhinagar
>>
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