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["Daniel Holme" <dholme@mistral.net>]

Johns little rant pretty much sums up the answer here. I think you would
be hardpushed to find a commercially available NIC that
recognises/honours the SHIM and all related mechanisms necessary to be
'MPLS aware'.

The only reson I can see you having would be in a lab environment and
insufficent funds and the inability to beg, borrow or steal the relevant
hardware available on the market for your testing, or trying to develop
some sick and twisted tag switching software device, ick.


--Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Puddinhead Wilson [mailto:puddinghead_wilson007@yahoo.co.uk] 
> Sent: 20 August 2004 10:59
> To: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: MPLS aware NICs
> 
> Well, :)
> 
> Whatver be my reasons,
> 
> Can you help me find them?
> I believe Laurel is one such place, any others?
> 
> 
> -thanks
> 
> 
>  --- "Bell, John" <john.bell@thus.net> wrote: 
> > Whats the point of an end host talking a signalling 
> protocol, unless 
> > it is participating in the routing domain? And end hosts, by 
> > definition are "END"
> > devices, which shouldnt participate in routing. They dont 
> have other 
> > hosts sitting behind them, traffic from an end host goes 
> one way - to 
> > and from a router, which decides where to send it.
> > 
> > You're talking about the end host BECOMING a router, and as I said, 
> > what's the point in that? It's an END host!
> > 
> > The only way what you're saying would make sense, was if the 
> > "end-host"  is actually a server functioning as a software router.
> > This can be a good
> > thing, in a Uni lab, for guys to write their own stacks and to see 
> > whats happening from a Computer Science viewpoint, or for research 
> > into protocol behaviour, but it's a bad idea for commercial 
> deployment 
> > because software routers are crap compared to hardware routers! For 
> > "crap" read "slow and unreliable" :-)
> > 
> > cheers, 
> > 	John
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Puddinhead Wilson
> > [mailto:puddinghead_wilson007@yahoo.co.uk]
> > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 08:57
> > To: McCallum, Robert; mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> > Subject: RE: [MPLS-OPS]: MPLS aware NICs
> > 
> > 
> > Yes but what if
> > a. the end host can talk a signalling protocol?
> > b. the end point identifiers in the end host/which would be 
> orthogonal 
> > to the forwarding plane, can be "as many as you please".
> > 
> >  --- "McCallum, Robert" <robert.mccallum@thus.net>
> > wrote: 
> > > Can we keep this one online please.  I would like
> > to
> > > know what benefits an
> > > MPLS aware NIC could give you.  Interesting topic 
> although I doubt 
> > > it if there are any about.
> > > 
> > > To me all that it would do is bring the stripping
> > of
> > > the topmost label one
> > > hop closer. Not a big benefit there really.
> > > 
> > > Robert McCallum
> > > CCIE #8757 R&S
> > > 01415663448
> > > 07818002241
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Puddinhead Wilson
> > > [mailto:puddinghead_wilson007@yahoo.co.uk]
> > > > Sent: 19 August 2004 19:40
> > > > To: mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> > > > Subject: [MPLS-OPS]: MPLS aware NICs
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Folks,
> > > > 
> > > > Is some one aware/Is there a place where I can
> > > find
> > > > MPLS aware NICs?
> > > > 
> > > > If yes please contact me offline.
> > > > 
> > > > -PW.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 	
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