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RE: MPLS aware NICs

  • From: Mat.e.Hobbis@alcatel.co.uk
  • Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 13:23:58 +0100
  • Cc: "' Bjørn_Mork'" <bjorn@mork.no>, "Bell, John" <john.bell@thus.net>, mpls-ops@mplsrc.com, "'Puddinhead Wilson'" <puddinghead_wilson007@yahoo.co.uk>, "McCallum, Robert" <robert.mccallum@thus.net>
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  • To: Puddinhead Wilson <puddinghead_wilson007@yahoo.co.uk>
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Seems like you are asking the wrong question. As hinted earlier in this
chain, MPLS sits above the NIC level, i.e the same MPLS stack should work
on all IF, so you need an OS that supports MPLS - take a look at Linux.





                                                                                                                                              
                      Puddinhead Wilson                                                                                                       
                      <puddinghead_wilson007@y        To:       "McCallum, Robert" <robert.mccallum@thus.net>, "'Bjørn_Mork'"                 
                      ahoo.co.uk>                      <bjorn@mork.no>, "Bell, John" <john.bell@thus.net>                                     
                                                      cc:       "'Puddinhead Wilson'" <puddinghead_wilson007@yahoo.co.uk>,                    
                      20/08/2004 13:02                 mpls-ops@mplsrc.com                                                                    
                                                      Subject:  RE: [MPLS-OPS]: MPLS aware NICs                                               
                                                                                                                                              




fine,

but if someone asked you where you could find them ,
would you be nice enough to tell them :)?

-thanks

 --- "McCallum, Robert" <robert.mccallum@thus.net>
wrote:
> Thinks about what this end device would need to do
> to be able to do that
> properly.
>
> Have a sizable routing table.
> Hold a full LIB for the whole network.
> RSVP signalling.
>
> Are we going to bring in FRR as well?
>
> All of the above can be done oddly enough on devices
> called routers.  Leave
> the end device to be noddy and let the magic get
> done on boxes that it
> should be done on.
>
> I still don't see any benefit from an mpls nic.
>
> Robert McCallum
> CCIE #8757 R&S
> 01415663448
> 07818002241
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bjørn Mork [mailto:bjorn@mork.no]
> > Sent: 20 August 2004 12:33
> > To: Bell, John
> > Cc: McCallum, Robert; 'Puddinhead Wilson';
> mpls-ops@mplsrc.com
> > Subject: Re: [MPLS-OPS]: MPLS aware NICs
> >
> >
> > "Bell, John" <john.bell@thus.net> writes:
> >
> > >       None that I'm aware of. As Steinar says, you'd
> have to
> > run a routing
> > > protocol on your workstation/server for it to
> make any
> > sense. Equally,
> > > making an NIC MPLS-aware means writing an MPLS
> stack in
> > software, so I
> > > suppose  some guys in a Uni lab may write their
> own MPLS-aware NIC
> > > stack as a project, and run "routed" on a Linux
> box, just to
> > > understand whats happening. But there will never
> be a commercial
> > > reason to do it, as you need to turn your server
> into a software
> > > router. As we all know, this is a crappy idea
> when there
> > are perfectly
> > > good (i.e a million times better) hardware
> routers around :-)
> >
> > Let's say you want to do policy routing on your
> edge,
> > redirecting some packets to one or more servers
> located at a
> > central server farm.  To do this you need tunnels
> from the
> > edge routers to these servers.  Why not use MPLS
> tunnels?
> > The servers will have to terminate the tunnels no
> matter what
> > protocol is used.  But they don't have to do any
> forwarding,
> > and they don't really have to participate in the
> routing exchange.
> >
> > I'd say that popping a label is much preferred to
> unwrapping
> > ipsec or gre or whatever, even if you don't
> qualify as a router ;-)
> >
> >
> > Bjørn
> >
>





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