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take my name out of your list. thanks

  • From: Eli Harel <s2214961@techst02.technion.ac.il>
  • Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 12:34:02 +0200 (EET)
  • cc: Curtis Villamizar <curtis@wawa.ans.net>, Mark Laubach <laubach@terra.com21.com>, Grenville Armitage <gja@thumper.bellcore.com>, Grenville Armitage <gja@thumper.bellcore.com>, rolc@maelstrom.timeplex.com, ip-atm@matmos.hpl.hp.com, malis@maelstrom.acton.timeplex.com



On Wed, 7 Dec 1994, Andy Malis wrote:
On Wed, 7 Dec 1994, Andy Malis wrote:

> >> > > While contemplating my hotel room roof after the monday rolc
> >> > > meeting I wondered about the apparent sentiment in the rolc meeting
> >> > > the the rfc1577 to nhrp transition would involve three periods:
> >> > >   - Hosts use LIS ARP Server
> >> > >   - Hosts use LIS ARP Server
> >> > >   - Hosts must/can choose between ARP Server or NHRP Server.
> >> > >   - Hosts must/can choose between ARP Server or NHRP Server.
> >> > >   - Hosts only have NHRP Server.
> >> > In the middle step, hosts register with both for the benefit of
> >> > rfc1577 only hosts on the LIS, but *should* query NHRP.  Once no one
> >> > is querying the RFC1577 server on a LIS, it can go away.  If I
> >> > understood what was proposed at the meeting.
> >> I though I heard that the middle step requires hosts to register with
> >> ATMARP, which will cross-feed oneway to the NHRP server (co-located). 
> >> ATMARP, which will cross-feed oneway to the NHRP server (co-located). 
> >> NHRP is then used for off-LIS queries.
> >That sounds perfectly resonable.  Then in step 3, ATM ARP is still
> >That sounds perfectly resonable.  Then in step 3, ATM ARP is still
> >used for registry only and NHRP is used exclusively for queries?
> 
> Attempting to clear up the confusion ... here is how the transition will
> Attempting to clear up the confusion ... here is how the transition will
> work:
> 
> Step 1: Only ARP servers are used as per RFC 1577.
> Step 1: Only ARP servers are used as per RFC 1577.
> 
> Step 2: NHRP is phased in:
>      2a. Hosts continue to register with the ARP server (until
>      2a. Hosts continue to register with the ARP server (until
>          ARP servers go away, for the benefit of non-NHRP hosts).
>          ARP servers go away, for the benefit of non-NHRP hosts).
>          ARP servers will leak registrations to NHRP servers, so NHRP
>          ARP servers will leak registrations to NHRP servers, so NHRP
>          hosts don't have to register twice if they don't wish to
>          (but then they must agree to certain defaults, such as the
>          registration timeout period).  If NHRP hosts wish to set
>          these values, then they must also register with the NHRP
>          server.  Explicit registrations always take precedence over
>          leaked registrations.
>      2b. NHRP source hosts send all address resolution requests
>          to the NHRP server (without regard to the "mask and match"
>          operation).
>      2c. NHRP source hosts may send ARP requests to their ARP
>      2c. NHRP source hosts may send ARP requests to their ARP
>          server if they get a NHRP NAK and the destination is in the
>          server if they get a NHRP NAK and the destination is in the
>          same LIS.
> 
> Step 3: NHRP servers completely replace ARP servers.  All hosts
> Step 3: NHRP servers completely replace ARP servers.  All hosts
>         are NHRP-capable.  ARP servers no longer exist.
>         are NHRP-capable.  ARP servers no longer exist.
> 
> Andy
> Andy
> 
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> Andrew G. Malis   malis@maelstrom.timeplex.com             +1 508 266-4522
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