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Routing Over Large Clouds (ROLC) Working Group Minutes
IETF Meeting, December 5, 1994
San Jose, California
Chair: Andrew Malis, Ascom Timeplex
Chair: Andrew Malis, Ascom Timeplex
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There were 108 attendees, many of whom were newcomers.
The chair announced that in order to get work done, the group
would focus its discussion on the current draft and not rehash
earlier decisions (especially the requirements and goals).
He then presented the following overheads to start the meeting
and provide some background to the first-timers:
Agenda
Agenda
* Agenda bashing
* Agenda bashing
* ROLC introduction
* ATM Forum update
* ATM Forum update
* NARP and NHRP implementation experience
* NARP and NHRP implementation experience
* NHRP specification discussion
* Open technical issues (authentication, etc.)
* Discussion of NHRP status and WG recommendation to the
IESG (if any)
* Planning for the NHRP Protocol Analysis document
* Planning for the NHRP Protocol Analysis document
* Updating the workplan
Problem Statement
* Analyze and propose enhancements to IP routing over
* Analyze and propose enhancements to IP routing over
large "shared media" link layer (with respect to IP)
networks
* ATM
* ATM
* Frame Relay
* X.25
* SMDS
* etc.
* Avoid "extra hops" when routing IP
* Avoid "extra hops" when routing IP
* Defined as IP datagrams leaving and re-entering the
same link-layer cloud as a result of an IP routing decision,
such as when routing between different IP subnets overlaid
on the same cloud
ROLC Requirements
* Enable communications between two entities in different
IP subnets on the same cloud.
* Support policy restrictions (cannot subvert filtering,
etc.).
* Be compatible with existing routing protocols.
* No new infrastructure deployed.
* Must apply to multiple media and routing technologies.
* Must be loop free.
* Support for complex cases should not unduly burden
simple cases.
* Support routing hierarchies and aggregation.
* Operate in the presence of multiple layers of routing
aggregation, including aggregates which cross the cloud
boundary.
ROLC Goals
* Should be effective and cheap in terms of network
resources.
* Be extensible to handle QoS (and other new features) in
the future.
* Be able to determine the path before having sent any
data packets over it.
* Should be diagnosable.
* Should be deterministic.
* Should work on a cloud where not all attached routers
are NHRP-capable.
* Reasonable robustness in the face of misconfiguration.
* As much autoconfiguration as possible.
* As much autoconfiguration as possible.
* Non-goal: the working group is not trying to couple
this work to link layer routing (this would involve
significantly more complexity).
Introduction to Next Hop Resolution Protocol
* Used by IP source station to determine "best" link
layer address to use to reach a destination station
* Result may be link layer address of:
* The destination itself
* Closest exit router to the destination
* An intermediate router, if required by policy
* An intermediate router, if required by policy
restrictions
* NHRP may be incrementally deployed
* First in some routers - Server Mode
* In all routers - Fabric Mode
* Hosts are identical no matter which mode is in use
* Host support may be incrementally deployed as well
(existing hosts can benefit via NHRP-capable router)
Protocol Overview
* Participating hosts register with their Next Hop Server
(NHS), exit routers may register entire IP subnets behind
them
* Source host sends NHRP request to NHS, host may also
send data along routed path
* NHSes forward the request to the destination's NHS
* Destination's NHS returns proper link layer address,
result cached on way back
* Source opens direct connection to destination for
subsequent datagrams
Server Mode and Fabric Mode
* In Server Mode, only a small number of routers also
NHSes
* Static configuration used for NHS-to-LIS associations
and NHS adjacencies
* This produces NHRP request/reply route
* In Fabric Mode, all ingress/egress routers are also
NHSes
* IP Routing used to produce NHRP request/reply route
* No static configuration required
* Host configuration is identical for both modes
NHRP Supports ...
* Network-layer policy restrictions
* If a router on the path has filtering enabled, it can
provide its own address in the response
* Quality of Service
* Desired QoS of the final path can be included in NHRP
Requests
* Supportability
* Includes forward and reverse route recording and full
error indications
* Other network layer protocols
* Protocol ID field allows use of IPng and other network
layer address formats in NHRP requests and replies
Current Workplan
Dec 94 Meet at San Jose, put finishing touches on NHRP,
plan implementations and analysis document.
Dec 94 Submit NHRP document to IESG as a Proposed
Standard.
Apr 95 Submit companion analysis document to IESG.
Apr 95 Submit companion analysis document to IESG.
During the presentation, Curtis Villamizar reminded the group that
at the Seattle meeting, a goals and requirements document was
discussed. While they have been documented in both the Seattle
and Toronto minutes and proceedings, The chair invited him to
write such a
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